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walrus
07-25-2008, 05:25 PM
Hi all,
I'm currently still in JC and I'm planning to take psychology after my A's and I have some questions which I hope can be resolved.


1. I do not have a CCA, but I have around 120 CIP hours. Even if I can get straight A's, and given that I come from a neighborhood JC, what are the chances of me being accepted by NUS Medicine? I'd rather read psychiatry but I have to read medicine before I can do that right? Also, is biology a prerequisite for medical school?

2. Sticking with the no CCA theme, what are the chances of me getting a local or overseas scholarship? I have only 3H2 and 1H1, which is equivalent to 10 academic units.

3. Should I read psychology in Singapore or abroad? I heard that I should go overseas if I want to read psychology as NUS will only give me a general degree in Arts and Social Sciences (not sure about the accuracy of this statement).

4.In addition, I've read that I need to spend a minimum of 6 years in NUS in order to get my Masters before I can practice psychology and that a first degree is pretty much useless. Is this the case for overseas universities?

5. Lastly, what are the career prospects for Psych grads in Singapore? Is there any place in the workforce for research psychologists, social psychologists, criminolgists and forensic psychologists? Also, what is the average salary like?

Sorry for my lengthy post and thanks in advance for your replies!

Ashearo
07-25-2008, 09:45 PM
Hi all,
I'm currently still in JC and I'm planning to take psychology after my A's and I have some questions which I hope can be resolved.


1. I do not have a CCA, but I have around 120 CIP hours. Even if I can get straight A's, and given that I come from a neighborhood JC, what are the chances of me being accepted by NUS Medicine? I'd rather read psychiatry but I have to read medicine before I can do that right? Also, is biology a prerequisite for medical school?

2. Sticking with the no CCA theme, what are the chances of me getting a local or overseas scholarship? I have only 3H2 and 1H1, which is equivalent to 10 academic units.

3. Should I read psychology in Singapore or abroad? I heard that I should go overseas if I want to read psychology as NUS will only give me a general degree in Arts and Social Sciences (not sure about the accuracy of this statement).

4.In addition, I've read that I need to spend a minimum of 6 years in NUS in order to get my Masters before I can practice psychology and that a first degree is pretty much useless. Is this the case for overseas universities?

5. Lastly, what are the career prospects for Psych grads in Singapore? Is there any place in the workforce for research psychologists, social psychologists, criminolgists and forensic psychologists? Also, what is the average salary like?

Sorry for my lengthy post and thanks in advance for your replies!

I can only answer a few questions and I'll try my best.

1. You will be quite disadvantaged because you do not have a CCA. But if your 120 CIP hours come a lot from volunteering, or include activities at hospitals, then you have a good chance at NUS medicine. In the end it all boils down to how you perform at the essay and 2 interviews. Psychiatry is a masters degree and yes you have to read medicine first. No, Biology is not a prerequisite for medicine. The only course that requires Biology as a prerequisite is Pharmacy.

2. Very low. Even if you have straight As and a CCA its quite hard because you have only 3 H2s. If you have no H3, then even lower. CCA is very very important because it will at least show them that you are more than just an academic person, and thats the kind of people they want as scholars.

I cant answer 3 4 and 5 i'm sorry :(

walrus
07-26-2008, 03:34 PM
Thanks Ashearo for answering my questions. My CIP hours all come from volunteering at my alma matter for various programmes. Will that be a disadvantage? Also, should I volunteer or apply for internships at hospitals after my A levels to boost my chances of entering medical school? How can I go about doing so? I come from a JC where the results of the students are less than stellar. Will the interviewers be biased towards those coming from elite schools such as RJC? Lastly, will PW and MT grades affect my chances? I got a B for PW and a C for MT.

Ashearo
07-27-2008, 01:39 AM
Thanks Ashearo for answering my questions. My CIP hours all come from volunteering at my alma matter for various programmes. Will that be a disadvantage? Also, should I volunteer or apply for internships at hospitals after my A levels to boost my chances of entering medical school? How can I go about doing so? I come from a JC where the results of the students are less than stellar. Will the interviewers be biased towards those coming from elite schools such as RJC? Lastly, will PW and MT grades affect my chances? I got a B for PW and a C for MT.

1. No, I don't think you will be disadvantaged in the CIP part. They will prolly ask you about what you did for your alma mater. If its not anything super, they will just leave it as it is.

2. Yes you should volunteer at, or apply for internships at hospitals. This will really help you to discover if you really really want to be a doctor or not. Its far more than just a prestigious job. In fact its really tough and its best you experience it by job shadowing. Check with your school's scholarships department if you have one. Otherwise you can try approaching hospitals directly.

3. No, I believe the interviews are very fair and impartial in their interviews. They give everyone the chance they deserve. It is true that the med faculty is made up of MANY RJ students and those from so called elite JCs, but thats because they are good enough to go in on their own merit. No matter what JC you are from, you have to depend on yourself when you go for the interview and essay.

4. PW will affect your chances of being shortlisted. Med fac shortlist people according to grades. I dont think Chinese will be counted into your admission grade unless you are doing a chinese-based course. This part I need someone else to confirm, because my admission score is based on the old syllabus.

melsonchun
10-19-2008, 08:33 AM
1. No, I don't think you will be disadvantaged in the CIP part. They will prolly ask you about what you did for your alma mater. If its not anything super, they will just leave it as it is.

2. Yes you should volunteer at, or apply for internships at hospitals. This will really help you to discover if you really really want to be a doctor or not. Its far more than just a prestigious job. In fact its really tough and its best you experience it by job shadowing. Check with your school's scholarships department if you have one. Otherwise you can try approaching hospitals directly.

3. No, I believe the interviews are very fair and impartial in their interviews. They give everyone the chance they deserve. It is true that the med faculty is made up of MANY RJ students and those from so called elite JCs, but thats because they are good enough to go in on their own merit. No matter what JC you are from, you have to depend on yourself when you go for the interview and essay.

4. PW will affect your chances of being shortlisted. Med fac shortlist people according to grades. I dont think Chinese will be counted into your admission grade unless you are doing a chinese-based course. This part I need someone else to confirm, because my admission score is based on the old syllabus.

Mention about PW i got a C. Wonder what's the disparity between schools.

walrus
10-21-2008, 01:11 PM
Yeah. I heard that 98% of HCI students got an A. Isn't that kind of unfair?

Ashearo
10-21-2008, 01:19 PM
Yeah. I heard that 98% of HCI students got an A. Isn't that kind of unfair?

We can't really comment on that. Who are we to judge if their projects are good enough, or not good enough? HCI is after all a top notch JC. There are no doubts that they will do well in PW. Frankly speaking, PW is meant to help students. And nothing is fair, because if the world is fair, all your fingers would be of the same length. :)

melsonchun
10-22-2008, 11:42 AM
We can't really comment on that. Who are we to judge if their projects are good enough, or not good enough? HCI is after all a top notch JC. There are no doubts that they will do well in PW. Frankly speaking, PW is meant to help students. And nothing is fair, because if the world is fair, all your fingers would be of the same length. :)

I do concede that HCI has produced many scholars and have a repute of a top JC in Singapore. What is particularly disturbing is the degree of intervention the supervising tutors render to the students.

While MOE has guidelines on that, most tutors overstep the boundary unknowingly. A friend of mine confirmed with me on that.

And of course, this is my point of view and is definitely inherently biased, given the fact I got a C, so do take it with a pinch of salt.

Ashearo
10-22-2008, 11:59 AM
I do concede that HCI has produced many scholars and have a repute of a top JC in Singapore. What is particularly disturbing is the degree of intervention the supervising tutors render to the students.

While MOE has guidelines on that, most tutors overstep the boundary unknowingly. A friend of mine confirmed with me on that.

And of course, this is my point of view and is definitely inherently biased, given the fact I got a C, so do take it with a pinch of salt.

Yes I am sure MOE has guidelines, but the fact that it is graded by schools themselves already leaves a loophole, for whatever reason, i do not know. Like I said, PW is something that JCs should help their students in, so if you get a C, I think its just tough luck that you didn't get as much help as people in other JCs did.

LockT31W
10-22-2008, 08:59 PM
just remember that the 98% may or may not be due to the supposedly excessive "tutor intervention". in fact, is it even 98% at all? that seems improbable.

melsonchun
10-23-2008, 08:29 AM
just remember that the 98% may or may not be due to the supposedly excessive "tutor intervention". in fact, is it even 98% at all? that seems improbable.

Yes 98% for the students in the year of 2008. What's astounding is that TJC had 7 % As last year. This year, they got over 70% A.

Colleges of comparable intellect, if you may say, SAJC and NYJC?

Both got less than 20%, if I remember correctly.

yingzhen
10-29-2008, 09:32 PM
I am actually thinking of studying psych in uni as well and have applied to Stanford because of its wonderful psych programme, among other factors.

I think you should think about what aspect of psych you like. I have explored local and overseas options and can offer the following advice.

I am sure you know the difference between a psychiatrist and psychologist. If you are interested in clinical psych and/or abnormal psych then NUS med might be good, but I decided that I wouldnt want to apply to NUS med because of the many years I have to put in before I can even specialize in psychiatry. It's a lot of basic physio and not very much psych.

So say you want to do a psych degree and not a medicine degree. Locally NUS's psych degree is not very rigorous and not very well looked upon (I dont know about NTU) because "it's there for the sake of being there" as quoted from my friend studying there now. SMU doesnt even have a proper psych programme. Going to US is the best option if you want to do psych, if you can afford it that is.

walrus
10-30-2008, 01:05 PM
Yeah, I have head about the psych faculties in SG being 'dumping grounds'. I've heard from my friends in the US that most unis will look at your grades during your secondary and jc days. What if i manage to get straight As for my A levels, but my past records are really terrible? By terrible, I mean that I have not gotten even a single A during my days in JC. Is that going to affect my application?

Ashearo
10-31-2008, 07:09 AM
Yeah, I have head about the psych faculties in SG being 'dumping grounds'. I've heard from my friends in the US that most unis will look at your grades during your secondary and jc days. What if i manage to get straight As for my A levels, but my past records are really terrible? By terrible, I mean that I have not gotten even a single A during my days in JC. Is that going to affect my application?

I think by "past records", they mean O level and A level results? I don't think its fair to be looking at your internal school exams and tests because not every JC has the same tests and exams.

LockT31W
10-31-2008, 04:18 PM
yeah, they only need O level and A level results and won't ask for your internal exam results.

walrus
10-31-2008, 05:02 PM
yeah, they only need O level and A level results and won't ask for your internal exam results.

Just checked with my friend. He told me that top schools like Stanford or Berkeley even look at your prelims and mid years.

jack
10-31-2008, 05:42 PM
all the admission offices in all top schools like Stanford or Berkeley must be really quite free to really look thru the mid year/ prelim results, considering they have so many applicants fighting for every single vacancy. And reviewing of such documents carefully really takes time. guess sg sch wont be able to do tt, it's simply too manpower intensive.

yingzhen
10-31-2008, 07:11 PM
If you are intending to go for Singapore schools, then with your grades you should have no problem getting into NUS psych.

What unis are you considering overseas? If it is HYPS etc they look at everything yes, all your transcripts. For US unis you dont have to declare a major right away and so you have to secure admission first, meaning that you will be fighting with many other elites around Singapore...

I think if you want more details about psych you can pm me. Good psych schools are Stanford, UC Berkeley, U Michigan, etc.

chonghhbas
03-26-2010, 01:41 AM
Hey guys, sorry to dredge up this old thread with questions on psychology :) Just hope you've got time to help me with some I'm facing :)

1. I'm interested in psychology, but more of the educational/positive/behavioral aspects rather than the clinical ones. Now, I understand SG unis aren't really that strong in these aspects. Any ideas where I could go with a good emphasis on these areas?

2. Right now, I'm hearing that the best schools for psych are in the US, but I haven't taken my SATs yet! Any good, well-known universities in UK/Aus that I should be looking at?

Thanks a ton!

williamparkar
04-22-2010, 07:38 PM
Yes you should volunteer at, or apply for internships at hospitals. This will really help you to discover if you really really want to be a doctor or not. Its far more than just a prestigious job. In fact its really tough and its best you experience it by job shadowing. Check with your school's scholarships department if you have one. Otherwise you can try approaching hospitals directly.

pnrcewpuyqrvf
10-14-2010, 06:42 PM
Psych Majors Aren't Happy With Options

Psychology majors might want to put themselves on the couch.

Only 26% of psychology majors are "satisfied" or "very satisfied" with their career paths, the lowest in a sampling of popular majors included in a Wall Street Journal study.

The psychology majors the survey captured had a satisfaction rate 14 percentage points lower than the next lowest majors, economics and environmental engineering.

The survey, which was conducted by PayScale.com between April and June of this year, only included respondents with jobs, but could include people who went on to earn a graduate degree. It included 10,800 workers who got their bachelor's degrees between 1999 and 2010.

Part of the reason for the psych majors' low scores might be that few professions recruit for psychology undergraduate degrees specifically, said R. Eric Landrum, a psychology professor at Boise State University and author of "Finding Jobs with a Psychology Bachelor's Degree." Some young psych majors might be discovering there's not a lot of appetite for their major without a graduate degree, he said.

Undergraduate psychology majors who don't go to graduate school tend to move to an unrelated field within a year, said St. Louis-based career counselor, Sue Ekberg, a former director of career services for Webster University.


In contrast, about 54% of chemical engineering and management information systems majors were satisfied or very satisfied, according to the survey, making them the happiest with their careers. "Engineers tend to proactively choose their career path and can easily find a marketplace for their skills," said New York-based career coach Bettina Seidman.

The PayScale survey was done as part of the Wall Street Journal's Paths to Professions project, which looked at jobs that are satisfying, well-paid and have growth potential. The PayScale survey examined people in a set of jobs that included industries such as health care, finance, and government.

Ms. Seidman said that the least satisfied career changers she works with tend to be those who fell into general majors, such as philosophy or African-American studies, and ended up in unrelated fields. When those people apply to jobs outside their majors, she recommends that they don't even put the major on their résumés. "It's not something you want to advertise," she said.

http://sg.wsj.net/public/resources/images/MK-BG695_SATISF_NS_20101010180444.gif

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704011904575538561813341020.html

lil jon
11-05-2010, 07:04 PM
Hi Chong. There is a multitude of areas in psychology.

The US and australia is the two more viable choices. US would be good because of the current exchange rate :p

I never really did any research into US/UK Unis so i won't comment on them. Im currently taking an undergraduate degree in Uni of Queensland, major psyc.

i'll be brutally honest. It true that psychology is a dumping ground. people who cant get into a uni choose psyc because the cut off is low. they use it just to get the 'paper' or as a stepping stone to a higher degree. because of this, psyc majors don't get alot of respect which kinda sux. :mad:

however, you cant practice as a psychologist without a masters minumium. that equates to at least 6 years before you are a 'fresh grad'.

people with a undergrad in psyc degree/honours cant do anything. you may even have trouble finding a job as a research assistant. if i was walking around with just a psyc degree i'd be pretty depressed too. i'd agree with the survey because chances are is that you'll have to choose some other career path.

Although the undergrad program is easy to get into. getting into a good psyc post grad program after that is very very competitive. im talking about 1st class honours before u are even considered. :eek:

the two biggest applied careers atm are clinical or organisational psyc. im guessing that child development may be coming up :confused:

there's also research and academics. even within these field, there are loads of divisions.

specialisation comes in only at the masters level. you'll still be doing pretty general stuff up to the honours level.

hope this helps