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evonne29
05-06-2010, 03:25 PM
Hi all,

i've received offer letters from smu biz and nus science quite some time ago. I personally have a passion for sciences, especially chemistry. i personally want to go into R&D and have interest in researching on drugs, along this line of career.

but i was hesitant about accepting nus science because i dont want to go into teaching as a career. on top of that, ive also read statistics from
http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/post-secondary/files/ges-smu.pdf
and http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/post-secondary/files/ges-nus.pdf
that smu business students do earn more than nus science students upon graduation.

although many lecturers from universities kept saying that we must commit to passion because university is a 3-4yrs course and will determine our future career, salary and sector of employment after graduation are factors of consideration too.

i hope to get some useful advices from people here regarding the career prospects of these 2 courses, which is better paid? will bsc in chemistry gain me a job in R&D sectors? or is it true that i will have a high likelihood of going into teaching?

Haecceity
05-06-2010, 03:54 PM
If I'm reading you correctly, you want to study science so that you can go into R&D as a researcher. For that, you'll need a Masters or a PhD, which means you probably shouldn't be looking at the stats.

With a B.Sc in R&D? I don't think you'll work as a researcher - I've heard that you'll only be able to "wash test tubes". Of course, you might be able to prepare the chemicals (depending on what course you take in B.Sc), but not research.

I'm not sure how that links up with being a teacher - unless you mean as a second option, if you can't make it into research? There are other jobs someone with a B.Sc can do.

evonne29
05-06-2010, 04:10 PM
If I'm reading you correctly, you want to study science so that you can go into R&D as a researcher. For that, you'll need a Masters or a PhD, which means you probably shouldn't be looking at the stats.

With a B.Sc in R&D? I don't think you'll work as a researcher - I've heard that you'll only be able to "wash test tubes". Of course, you might be able to prepare the chemicals (depending on what course you take in B.Sc), but not research.

I'm not sure how that links up with being a teacher - unless you mean as a second option, if you can't make it into research? There are other jobs someone with a B.Sc can do.

well, i think i shall simplify what i wna ask. nus offers 4 years direct honors course, so basically, what are other job prospects for honors in chemistry/ applied chemistry, in which many graduates are employed after graduation.

cause i did some research on the internet on HSA and HPB,
http://www.hsa.gov.sg/publish/hsaportal/en/careers/current_job_opportunities0/scientist__analytical.html
they do hire people in the Illicit Drugs and Toxicology Division based on BSc (hons) chemistry.

also, i wna ask about smu's BSc in Business Management, comparing the job prospects and salary with nus science, which have a higher demand and pay respectively?

because i'm quite concerned with the demand in employability in singapore and unable to find any information useful to help me make a choice :(

i hope to seek some advice.

Haecceity
05-06-2010, 05:31 PM
well, i think i shall simplify what i wna ask. nus offers 4 years direct honors course, so basically, what are other job prospects for honors in chemistry/ applied chemistry, in which many graduates are employed after graduation.

cause i did some research on the internet on HSA and HPB,
http://www.hsa.gov.sg/publish/hsaportal/en/careers/current_job_opportunities0/scientist__analytical.html
they do hire people in the Illicit Drugs and Toxicology Division based on BSc (hons) chemistry.

Chemistry lets you be:
Chemists
Environmental Health Officers (Senior)
Laboratory Officers (Health)
Process Development Chemists
Process Engineers (Electronics)
Quality Assurance Specialists

I suggest you look at the moe ecareers website (https://ecareers.sg/) for a better idea of what you can do.

Alternatively, you can always work in a field unrelated to that degree.

also, i wna ask about smu's BSc in Business Management, comparing the job prospects and salary with nus science, which have a higher demand and pay respectively?

because i'm quite concerned with the demand in employability in singapore and unable to find any information useful to help me make a choice :(


For employability issues - I can only give this general piece of advice. you're looking at it from the fresh-grad point of view. The degree helps you to get into that first job. Ultimately, it all depends on what you do with yourself after that degree. Do you improve yourself? Do you show potential? Enthusiasm? Passion? These can propel you up the career ladder into a higher paying job. After a while, the degree doesn't matter as much as work experience or your resume.

If you're looking for jobs that are in demand now, you could check out the Ministry of Manpower, I guess? There's something about job vacancies (http://www.mom.gov.sg/Home/MRSD/Documents/MD/mrsd_JV2009.pdf) - tells you which jobs were in demand last year. This does not tell you what job vacancies there are going to be in the four/five years though.

puffyy
05-14-2010, 12:13 AM
Hi all,

i've received offer letters from smu biz and nus science quite some time ago. I personally have a passion for sciences, especially chemistry. i personally want to go into R&D and have interest in researching on drugs, along this line of career.

but i was hesitant about accepting nus science because i dont want to go into teaching as a career. on top of that, ive also read statistics from
http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/post-secondary/files/ges-smu.pdf
and http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/post-secondary/files/ges-nus.pdf
that smu business students do earn more than nus science students upon graduation.

although many lecturers from universities kept saying that we must commit to passion because university is a 3-4yrs course and will determine our future career, salary and sector of employment after graduation are factors of consideration too.

i hope to get some useful advices from people here regarding the career prospects of these 2 courses, which is better paid? will bsc in chemistry gain me a job in R&D sectors? or is it true that i will have a high likelihood of going into teaching?

Hey evonne29, been following some of your posts. http://forum.brightsparks.com.sg/showthread.php?t=4884&page=2
here i read that you are still waiting for the unis replies (05/05/2010) but you stated that you have alr gotten your offer letters quite some time ago... and apparently you put FASS as ur 1st choice (if you are going to pursue econs) for NUS so i was quite amazed when you stated that you got into sci (your 2nd choice) instead. Haha I know this sounds stalker-ish but I can't help asking you to clarify...

twasher
05-14-2010, 10:05 AM
evonne,

I cannot speak for private sector research, but in terms of public sector research in Singapore, having only a BSc severely restricts your prospects for professional advancement within that sector.

Contrary to what some prominent public servants say, I do not think it is true that with only a BSc one cannot do good research -- in the US, many labs hire people without PhDs to do technical work, and some of these people can be more highly paid than professors. The salary system there is more flexible. However, in Singapore's public sector research, a bureaucratic system has been set up such that if you're research staff and you do not have a PhD, you cannot advance past a certain 'grade' in their remuneration scheme. Doesn't matter how many publications you have or how good your research is or how valuable you are to your lab. If you don't have a PhD, you're condemned to that salary grade and below. I hope this policy will change soon, but that's what it's like now.

If you're as passionate as you claim to be about research, then you should be looking to go into graduate school, in which case the statistics about business vs chemistry salaries are irrelevant. You will not be paid a lot in graduate school, but if you get into a good PhD program in the US, you will get more than enough to survive. You just have to be mentally prepared to see most of your non-research peers earning much more than you are by the time you get a PhD. If money is very important to you, you might feel very bitter about that.

It all depends on how much you value having a job you enjoy versus having money. If you go into a field that you have little passion for, you might end up having an unhappy working life for the next 30 years (either that, or go through the additional expense and lost time of switching fields). Is that worth the anticipated salary differential? Will you have time after work to enjoy the fruits of your labour, anyway? On the other hand, if you go for lower pay, will you regret it deeply later when you see your peers in nice houses and cars while you're barely making ends meet? Sorry if this is not helpful, but everyone has a different valuation of money, time, etc., so I cannot answer these questions for you.

evonne29
05-14-2010, 07:16 PM
Hey evonne29, been following some of your posts. http://forum.brightsparks.com.sg/showthread.php?t=4884&page=2
here i read that you are still waiting for the unis replies (05/05/2010) but you stated that you have alr gotten your offer letters quite some time ago... and apparently you put FASS as ur 1st choice (if you are going to pursue econs) for NUS so i was quite amazed when you stated that you got into sci (your 2nd choice) instead. Haha I know this sounds stalker-ish but I can't help asking you to clarify...

hi, sorry if it has confused you. there are 2 users to this account. evonne, who is my friend recommended me this forum cause she said she hasnt received any more updates on topic of her 'havent receive any university letters'.

so i just conveniently used her account to ask for opinions on my university issues. yep. and btw, i have already accepted nus sci course and most likely wont be using her account already:)

and for her, she hasnt received any letters yet. yep. hope this clarify your doubts :)