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Old 01-23-2008, 12:11 PM   #11
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Hi dudboi,

Totally agree with you on the lack of correlation between rankings and prestige. Look at Cambridge, look at Princeton. When I was looking to apply for my MBA school (way back in the mid 90s), both were ranked horribly at the bottom, but if you look at the application and acceptance stats, it would seem like a lot of people were still dying to get into these schools. That's prestige for you. Or to a marketing major like me, it's brand equity. Once you got that, you can put a stamp on anything and it will sell (at least for a good while) But to their credit, I did hear both programs have improved quite a bit.

As for getting a piece of paper from a bunch of old bricks, well, look at it from an employer's point of view. As an employer, I really have no clue what you can do or how good you are. There are a couple of ways I can make educated guesses - your past/track record, face to face assessments and referrals. To do either of the last 2 would take a lot of time if say I got 50 applicants per job. It's simply not practical. That leaves me the past records which usually comes in the form of a resume.

When you have resumes that run into the hundreds, what do you do? You screen, you shortlist. At the top of your list would be resumes that comes from schools you recognise as good (ct. paribus). It's a natural thing to do. Because since I don't have first hand knowledge of someone, the best I can do is to to infer from the colleges that already accepted and assessed that person. To enter a good college and graduate, you have already been "blessed" by that school's standards. Will I miss out a good candidate by this method? Of course. Do I care? Probably not because frankly, I wont know it and I am really too busy to worry about it either.

That's the reality of it. It's probably not very pc to say that but it's true. So perhaps a middle road would be good. Keep rankings, prestige,recognition in mind but don't let it dominate your decision process. Look for schools and programs you really like. Have your cake and eat it.
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Old 07-13-2008, 10:56 AM   #12
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Hey, I would like to know whether these schools are good for Information Systems Management/MIS ? Any insights on how the schools are ??

-Babson College
-University of Illinois-Urbana-Champaign
-Rutger's University
-Rochester Institute of Technology
-University of Washington
-Lehigh University
-University of Southern California
-Georgetown University.
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Old 05-28-2009, 09:50 PM   #13
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Ya.. Americans are only conern with USA!
a duplicate post.. if someone is looking for such info regarding MIS

2007 USNEWs Undergrad, U should be able to get a feel from USNEWS webby
Management Info System
1. MIT (Sloan)
2. Carnegie Mellon Uni
3. UT - Austin (Mccombs)
4. Uni of Arizona (Eller)
5. Uni of Minnesota - Twin Cities (Carlson)

2008 USNEWs Management Info System Undegrad
1. Carnegie Mellon Uni
2. MIT (Sloan)
3. UT - Austin (Mccombs)
4. Uni of Arizona (Eller)
5. Uni of Minnesota - Twin Cities (Carlson)

2009 USNEWs Management Information Systems (System Info Biz or Biz IT) Undergrad
1. MIT
2. Carnegie Mellon University
3. University of Texas--Austin
4. Uni of Arizona - Eller
5. University of Maryland--College Park
6. Uni of Minnesota-Twin Cities (Carlson)
7 University of Pennsylvania
8. Georgia State University
9. University of Georgia
10 University of Michigan--Ann Arbor

USNEWS 2007/2008
MBA Business Specialties: Information System
1. MIT (Sloan)
2 Carnegie Mellon Uni (Tepper)
3. Uni of Texas - Austin (McCombs)
4 Uni of Minnesota - Twin Cities (Carlson)
5 Uni of Arizona (Eller)
6 Uni of Maryland - College Park (Smith)
7 Uni of Penn (Wharton)
8 Stanford
9 NYU (Stern)
10 Georgia State (Robinson)
11 Indiana Uni - Bloomington (Kelly)
12 Uni of Mich (ROSS)
13 Uni of California - Berkeley (Haas)
14 Purdue Uni -West Lafayette (Krannert)
15 Arizona State (Carey)
15 Uni of Illinois - Urbana Champaign
17 Uni of Georgia (Terry)
18 Uni of California - Irvine (Merage)
18 Uni of Pittsburgh (Katz)
20 Bentley College (McCallum)
20. Case Western Reserve (Weatherhead)
20 Northwestern Uni (Kellogg)
20 Uni of Washington
24 Georgia Tech
24 Harvard
24 UCLA (Anderson)
24 USC (Marshall)
24 Uni of Connecticut
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Old 06-11-2009, 02:21 AM   #14
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Red face Poly Student ---> US universities, any tips?

hey there...

I'm a poly grad who was recently awarded the DSTA Overseas Scholarship. I would really appreciate some tips on which US uni's do poly grads "usually apply to" to minimize wasting time and $$ on application fees. Also, I don't want to end up in a "powerful uni" but struggling to cope. Any tips on that?

I studied Electrical & Electronic Engineering in poly and will be doing the same at undergrad level. Any US uni that is reputable in EEE and 1) doesn't need SAT 2 results to apply and 2) will defer enrollment for 2 years NS lapse?

I just did my SAT 1; results out on 25 June. Any suggestions on what to do to prepare any applications, etc?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 06-23-2009, 02:13 AM   #15
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IIRC, try UiUC, UMICH, UT-Austin, Uni Wisconsin, georgia tech.
I am pretty sure U have no problem gong to Purdue.

not sure if they willl defer for 2yrs..

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Old 06-23-2009, 10:15 AM   #16
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Hey congratulations xylee, you can check out Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology or the Franklin W. Olin College of Engineering at Babson College
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Old 06-23-2009, 10:37 AM   #17
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Hey congratulations xylee, you can check out Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology or the Franklin W. Olin College of Engineering at Babson College
That will be quite unusual choices for a DSTA scholar

Besides, Olin is a separate entity from Babson right?
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Old 06-23-2009, 08:55 PM   #18
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Hahah yeah, i'm just offering different alternatives to xylee, I mean there are so many great schools in the states besides the ivy league. Just a matter of choosing the one that has the right culture for you =)
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Old 06-23-2009, 11:29 PM   #19
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Hey congratulations xylee, you can check out Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology or the Franklin W. Olin College of Engineering at Babson College
IIRC Olin award merit scholarship to every student admitted. The Econ today... might have change things bit.

anyway DSTA bonded, Olin award no bond..
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:59 PM   #20
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IIRC, try UiUC, UMICH, UT-Austin, Uni Wisconsin, georgia tech.
I am pretty sure U have no problem gong to Purdue.

not sure if they willl defer for 2yrs..
any idea which US universities are "more popular" among poly grads?
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