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Old 05-14-2008, 10:45 PM   #1
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Default NTU College of Engineering - Chemical & Biomolecular Engineering

In NTU CBE.. Is there a lot of Organic Chemistry involved?? I do know that in year 1 smester 2 there will be A LOT of organic chem... But as a whole.. Is it really a lot? If not then what is the major component of CBE course?? If possible can explain how that AU point thingy works?
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Old 05-16-2008, 12:36 AM   #2
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In NTU CBE.. Is there a lot of Organic Chemistry involved?? I do know that in year 1 smester 2 there will be A LOT of organic chem... But as a whole.. Is it really a lot? If not then what is the major component of CBE course?? If possible can explain how that AU point thingy works?
Hey, in NTU Cbe, there's only 1 module of organic chemistry in the whole of CBE life that we have to take (thank goodness. its hard.) Erm, in year 1 sem 2, theres the one and only organic chem module that we need to clear. Thats all. Its a lot to some, like me. I prefer much more of the process engineering studies, rather than chemistry.

Please refer to our website http://www.ntu.edu.sg/scbe/CBE/Under..._plan07-08.htm for more info on the study plan and the allocated au for each module.

The major components of the cbe course is unit operations, thermodynamics, reaction engineering, which might not mean anything to you now, but it will be a very major part of your CBE life. Don't need to worry abt these yet, they will mostly come only from year 2 onwards.
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Old 03-21-2009, 02:58 PM   #3
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Default chemical and biomoecular engineering

I am interested in chemical engineering. However, I have a few queries.

First and foremost, I would like to know the differences in NUS chemical engineering and NTU CBE?

Secondly, from the curriculum, I can see that nus does not have a compulsory industrial attachment, whereas ntu has. Nus gives their student the choice of taking up unrestricted electives. in that sense, am I right to say that ntu engineering prepares student better in working world and nus is more towardds imparting knowledge.

Thirdly, can someone who is in these programmes enlighten me? who should take up these courses? Because I really dun noe whether to take chem eng or accounting. My acquaintances and family members ask me to follow my heart and passion but I really dun know whether such a specialised courses suit me and also the career prospect wise- we got to be realistic, if you graduate there is few job opportunities, what's the point of pursuing the degree? I liked maths, chem and bio, as for physics not to the extent of like but can still do well,

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Old 03-23-2009, 02:24 PM   #4
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Question Chem&Bio Engineering??

Hi i'm new here

Just want to ask if Chemical & Biomolecular Engineering = Chemical Engineering in NUS??

After the open house, i'm still not very sure what's the difference in Chem&Biomolecular engineering and Bioengineering.. Why are the grades needed to get in so different? And with a grade of ABB/B, it's almost impossible to get into Chem&Biomolecular engineering right?

Thanks in advance for helping!
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Old 03-24-2009, 01:48 PM   #5
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Hello!
Ok, you have already answered one of the main difference btw NUS and NTU chem eng course.

1) NTU has compulsory Industrial Attachment (IA) for 22 weeks as part of our curriculum. The companies are sourced by the school and the school ensures every student will get a chance to have a real industrial experience of the chemical / pharma / research industry.
For NUS, its optional, u can choose either to do the IA or to clear electives instead. I heard it goes by your grades also, but I am not too sure abt that. Anyone from NUS to give us some info on this?

2) The name "Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering", as compared to "Chemical Engineering", already tells us that the "Biomolecular" portion for NTU is incorporated into our curriculum, whereas for NUS, it is offered as a specialization.
For NTU CBE, we will take 2 Biomolecular Engineering Modules in Year 1 and 2 to give us a taste of what the biomolecular area is like, before students can choose to specialize in Biotech. This syllabus has its pros and cons, some students are relatively weaker in the "Bio" areas so they might find it quite tough.


As for WHO should takes up this course, I believe that it really depends on your interest, and what jobs you want to take up.

For example, we know that there are a lot of electrical engineering jobs out there, BUT the school intake is also based on the market demand. EEE offers 600+ spaces per year but CBE offers only 160-200 per year. So it means that end of the day, the job competition is almost the same for all graduates.

So now in terms of whether a specialized course is good, I personally feel that specialized course is better as it means that we can work in BOTH specialized and non-specialized jobs, ranging from production engineer, process engineer, design engineer, safety engineer, R&D engineer to even engineering (market) consultants, HR, finance.... The list is never-ending.

End of the day, the area of your interest is still the most impt factor. University is just a process that we all go through to prepare ourselves for the working world. Hence, what kind of area you want to work in is still most impt as compared what kind of courses you think you can score better or is "slacker", etc. Choose wisely.


Engineering is not exactly maths, nor physics, nor bio, nor chem. It is an area of education which brings the theory into the application level in the working industry. For CBE, it is a mixture of all aspects, with more focus on applied physics and chem I suppose.

Do remember to apply before the deadline!


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I am interested in chemical engineering. However, I have a few queries.

First and foremost, I would like to know the differences in NUS chemical engineering and NTU CBE?

Secondly, from the curriculum, I can see that nus does not have a compulsory industrial attachment, whereas ntu has. Nus gives their student the choice of taking up unrestricted electives. in that sense, am I right to say that ntu engineering prepares student better in working world and nus is more towardds imparting knowledge.

Thirdly, can someone who is in these programmes enlighten me? who should take up these courses? Because I really dun noe whether to take chem eng or accounting. My acquaintances and family members ask me to follow my heart and passion but I really dun know whether such a specialised courses suit me and also the career prospect wise- we got to be realistic, if you graduate there is few job opportunities, what's the point of pursuing the degree? I liked maths, chem and bio, as for physics not to the extent of like but can still do well,

Helps!!!
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Old 03-24-2009, 01:51 PM   #6
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Hihi!
Do refer to my other reply.
For cut-off grades, the past year was at ABB/B for lowest 10th percentile, but it all depends on the cohort of people applying into CBE.

But I will still encourage you to apply and there should be higher chancer of getting in with a first choice as CBE.

In the meantime, also look for others courses which you have interest in and put them under your list too! (just in case) I wouldnt suggest anyone to only indicate a single choice.


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Hi i'm new here

Just want to ask if Chemical & Biomolecular Engineering = Chemical Engineering in NUS??

After the open house, i'm still not very sure what's the difference in Chem&Biomolecular engineering and Bioengineering.. Why are the grades needed to get in so different? And with a grade of ABB/B, it's almost impossible to get into Chem&Biomolecular engineering right?

Thanks in advance for helping!
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Old 03-24-2009, 11:32 PM   #7
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Hihi!
Do refer to my other reply.
For cut-off grades, the past year was at ABB/B for lowest 10th percentile, but it all depends on the cohort of people applying into CBE.

But I will still encourage you to apply and there should be higher chancer of getting in with a first choice as CBE.

In the meantime, also look for others courses which you have interest in and put them under your list too! (just in case) I wouldnt suggest anyone to only indicate a single choice.
Thanks for the reply Really appreciate it.
Do you happen to know about bioengineering too? Like what's the different between that and CBE?
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Old 03-25-2009, 05:27 PM   #8
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Thanks for the reply Really appreciate it.
Do you happen to know about bioengineering too? Like what's the different between that and CBE?
Ok, firstly similarities => both are engineering courses, and we are housed under the same school (but we got a building each).

Differences => Bioengineering is biomedical engineering of the human biology. In bioengineering, you learn the human anatomy and a few bio modules and specialised engineering core such as signal processing of medical instruments. Bioengineers are involved in the production and design of medical instruments such as CT Scan, X-Ray, MRI, ECG... Theres too many to name!

Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering in NTU is 80% on traditional Chem Eng core, and 20% on Biomolecular engineering. What we learn is pertaining more to basic biology in cells, esp those that is on DNA and those that involves enzymes which we can later link to our rate kinetics core and biotech specialization. CBE focus more on the engineering of a process, for example, in petrochem, cracking of alkenes into short chain carbons, in pharma, designing of reactors for drug manufacture.

Hope this answers your question!
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Old 03-25-2009, 09:19 PM   #9
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Ok, firstly similarities => both are engineering courses, and we are housed under the same school (but we got a building each).

Differences => Bioengineering is biomedical engineering of the human biology. In bioengineering, you learn the human anatomy and a few bio modules and specialised engineering core such as signal processing of medical instruments. Bioengineers are involved in the production and design of medical instruments such as CT Scan, X-Ray, MRI, ECG... Theres too many to name!

Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering in NTU is 80% on traditional Chem Eng core, and 20% on Biomolecular engineering. What we learn is pertaining more to basic biology in cells, esp those that is on DNA and those that involves enzymes which we can later link to our rate kinetics core and biotech specialization. CBE focus more on the engineering of a process, for example, in petrochem, cracking of alkenes into short chain carbons, in pharma, designing of reactors for drug manufacture.

Hope this answers your question!
AH! This definitely answers my question THANK YOU again!!
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Old 05-13-2009, 12:12 AM   #10
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wow, insightful info shared here! Nice (:

I'm aware that NTU's CBE program is more realistic/practical in that it better equip graduates for work, whereas NUS's Chem engi prog entails too much unnecessary modules, too academic driven.

Somehow, I'm swayed towards ntu's chem engi which i ve been offered!

But I'm still waiting for NUS.... Its taking a little too long..
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