BrightSparks Forum

Go Back   BrightSparks Singapore Scholarship & Higher Education Forum > University > Local
Click Here if you forgot your password.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-11-2010, 12:14 PM   #11
frozenheart
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Singapore
Posts: 68
frozenheart has a neutral reputation
Send a message via MSN to frozenheart
Default

I see, thanks for your reply, I appreciate it.
__________________
Nothing worth doing is easy to accomplish.
frozenheart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2010, 02:14 PM   #12
Helfin
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 23
Helfin has a neutral reputation
Default Another Ranking

http://www.usnews.com/articles/educa...e-eastern.html

USNews web

Rank Overall Score
1 University of Tokyo
Japan 88.9
Academic Peer Review Score
100 Employer Review Score
97 Student to Faculty Score
98 International Faculty Score
28 International Students Score
42 Citations per Faculty Score
70

2 University of Hong Kong
Hong Kong 87.5
Academic Peer Review Score
96 Employer Review Score
89 Student to Faculty Score
87 International Faculty Score
100 International Students Score
95 Citations per Faculty Score
56

3 Kyoto University
Japan 87.1
Academic Peer Review Score
100 Employer Review Score
93 Student to Faculty Score
81 International Faculty Score
32 International Students Score
26 Citations per Faculty Score
85

4 National University of Singapore (NUS)
Singapore 84.3
Academic Peer Review Score
100 Employer Review Score
96 Student to Faculty Score
40 International Faculty Score
100 International Students Score
100 Citations per Faculty Score
75

5 Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Hong Kong 83.3
Academic Peer Review Score
89 Employer Review Score
86 Student to Faculty Score
84 International Faculty Score
100 International Students Score
99 Citations per Faculty Score
54

6 Osaka University
Japan 80.1
Academic Peer Review Score
92 Employer Review Score
73 Student to Faculty Score
90 International Faculty Score
24 International Students Score
33 Citations per Faculty Score
68

7 The Chinese University of Hong Kong
Hong Kong 79.6
Academic Peer Review Score
87 Employer Review Score
77 Student to Faculty Score
77 International Faculty Score
97 International Students Score
79 Citations per Faculty Score
55

8 Seoul National University
Korea, South 79.0
Academic Peer Review Score
99 Employer Review Score
69 Student to Faculty Score
92 International Faculty Score
29 International Students Score
33 Citations per Faculty Score
47

9 Tsinghua University
China 78.9
Academic Peer Review Score
98 Employer Review Score
83 Student to Faculty Score
95 International Faculty Score
45 International Students Score
34 Citations per Faculty Score
34

10 Peking University
China 78.4
Academic Peer Review Score
100 Employer Review Score
93 Student to Faculty Score
89 International Faculty Score
24 International Students Score
30 Citations per Faculty Score
35

11 Tokyo Institute of Technology
Japan 76.3
Academic Peer Review Score
81 Employer Review Score
79 Student to Faculty Score
72 International Faculty Score
31 International Students Score
49 Citations per Faculty Score
80

12 KAIST - Korea Advanced Institute of Science & Technology
Korea, South 72.6
Academic Peer Review Score
84 Employer Review Score
52 Student to Faculty Score
77 International Faculty Score
47 International Students Score
31 Citations per Faculty Score
65

13 Nanyang Technological University (NTU)
Singapore 72.0
Academic Peer Review Score
86 Employer Review Score
84 Student to Faculty Score
44 International Faculty Score
100 International Students Score
100 Citations per Faculty Score
44

14 Nagoya University
Japan 69.2
Academic Peer Review Score
67 Employer Review Score
77 Student to Faculty Score
89 International Faculty Score
28 International Students Score
34 Citations per Faculty Score
61

15 National Taiwan University
Taiwan 68.9
Academic Peer Review Score
93 Employer Review Score
82 Student to Faculty Score
39 International Faculty Score
29 International Students Score
25 Citations per Faculty Score
57
Helfin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2010, 02:18 PM   #13
Helfin
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 23
Helfin has a neutral reputation
Default

Point to note is that NUS and NTU both beat all the HK Universities pants down in every department except staff-student ratio.

Which means that we might soon see a reduction in NUS and NTU vacancies if they want to improve their rankings. An estimate would be Ivy League unis take about 4,000 (?) students a year, and NUS take about 6,500 (?), NTU takes about 5,500 (?) a year. So if they are to be on par with the Ivy league, we should expect NUS to cut 2,000 and NTU to cut 1,000 in intake numbers in a few years.

I suggest everyone to start checking out the 2 new public universities, SUTD and SIT just in case this really happens...
Helfin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2010, 02:54 PM   #14
Haecceity
Moderator
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,450
Haecceity has a neutral reputation
Default

@Helfin:
I've moved this to a more appropriate thread.

I think something similar has been mentioned elsewhere on the forum: that the new universities are expected to help to bring down the staff:student ratio.

In any case:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Helfin View Post
Which means that we might soon see a reduction in NUS and NTU vacancies if they want to improve their rankings. An estimate would be Ivy League unis take about 4,000 (?) students a year, and NUS take about 6,500 (?), NTU takes about 5,500 (?) a year. So if they are to be on par with the Ivy league, we should expect NUS to cut 2,000 and NTU to cut 1,000 in intake numbers in a few years.
I don't think you can make such a general statement. NUS/NTU have different sizes, and the number of students each school takes in is also related to the number of courses they have.

Also, the number of vacancies in NUS/NTU seem to have been rising from previous years. It is possible that it will plateau (like it looks to be doing). Alternatively, they can hire more staff/faculty members.

You haven't included SMU, I notice: and it shows that MOE is willing to "outsource" new courses when there is a shortage of new degrees, e.g. SMU introduced a new law course recently (3 years back, going 4 years).
__________________
Disclaimer: Any advice offered by myself or other moderators / forum members on this forum is just that - mere advice. Neither BrightSparks nor we give any illusion that the information provided is definitive, and take no responsibility for any consequences.
Haecceity is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2010, 03:03 PM   #15
Helfin
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 23
Helfin has a neutral reputation
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Haecceity View Post
@Helfin:
I've moved this to a more appropriate thread.

I think something similar has been mentioned elsewhere on the forum: that the new universities are expected to help to bring down the staff:student ratio.

In any case:

I don't think you can make such a general statement. NUS/NTU have different sizes, and the number of students each school takes in is also related to the number of courses they have.

Also, the number of vacancies in NUS/NTU seem to have been rising from previous years. It is possible that it will plateau (like it looks to be doing). Alternatively, they can hire more staff/faculty members.

You haven't included SMU, I notice: and it shows that MOE is willing to "outsource" new courses when there is a shortage of new degrees, e.g. SMU introduced a new law course recently (3 years back, going 4 years).
http://www.moe.gov.sg/media/press/2008/03/expansion-and-diversification.php

"In the near term, MOE is working with the three publicly-funded universities (NUS, NTU and SMU) to ensure that the target of providing university places for 25% of each Singaporean Primary One cohort will be achieved from 2008, instead of 2010 as originally planned.

NUS and NTU will maintain their current level of undergraduate intake and focus on enhancing the quality of their undergraduate programmes."

Seems like NUS and NTU are scheduled to take in their 2008 numbers (max) in the long term. Which means cutting back what has been added over these past 2 years.

I did not mention SMU because it was not in that ranking I posted.
Helfin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2010, 03:23 PM   #16
Helfin
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 23
Helfin has a neutral reputation
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Haecceity View Post
In any case:

I don't think you can make such a general statement. NUS/NTU have different sizes, and the number of students each school takes in is also related to the number of courses they have.

Alternatively, they can hire more staff/faculty members.
Oh sorry for the slow after-thought. But I was thinking, it is not cheap to hire more NUS/NTU level of faculty members. Not that SMU/SUTD/SIT have poor faculty quality, but the NUS/NTU type has to churn out research (which does not directly add to/reduce teaching and student experience) so NUS/NTU type will tend to be more expensive.

So the more affordable way (instead of increasing GST and school fees, and get complaints for all of us) will be to reduce student intake. Having more courses does not mean you need a huge student intake. You can always reduce class size per course. Which is how you score in the staff-student ratio anyway.

This means or could even be the reason why SUTD and SIT are set up while SMU is being expanded to take up the numbers shed by NUS/NTU while ensuring quality for all of us.
Helfin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2010, 11:04 PM   #17
LockT31W
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 813
LockT31W has a neutral reputation
Default

Rankings aren't that important. Singaporeans tend to place too much faith in them.
__________________
Disclaimer: Any advice offered by myself or other moderators / forum members on this forum is just that - mere advice. Neither BrightSparks nor we give any illusion that the information provided is definitive, and take no responsibility for any consequences.

Last edited by LockT31W; 06-23-2010 at 11:12 PM.
LockT31W is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2010, 02:34 AM   #18
Wishful
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 86
Wishful has a neutral reputation
Default

sighs almost 50% of singaporeans have degrees..

so time to get a degree in a "better field" which you're interested in, plus an acclaimed univ.. else u lose the competitive edge.
Wishful is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2010, 09:32 AM   #19
Run
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 400
Run has a neutral reputation
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wishful View Post
sighs almost 50% of singaporeans have degrees..

so time to get a degree in a "better field" which you're interested in, plus an acclaimed univ.. else u lose the competitive edge.
Being book-smart is only one of the requirements. A degree from an acclaimed university will open doors for you, but you still need to have the required "soft skills" in order to excel in the working world, especially since the global job competition is heating up rapidly.
Run is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2010, 10:19 AM   #20
Helfin
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 23
Helfin has a neutral reputation
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LockT31W View Post
Rankings aren't that important. Singaporeans tend to place too much faith in them.
If I say Harvard is #1 and Yale is #2. Would you care about that ranking?
Helfin is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +8. The time now is 05:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.