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Old 03-22-2008, 12:31 PM   #1
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could anyone provide an insight into the typical career path for a fresh lawyer? i'm interested in the career progression and also the salary scale, and if possible, for different types of law firms. i would really appreciate any info - i'm still trying to decide.

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typical starting pay?
typical pay by 30 years old or early thirties?
how easy it is and how long would it take to make partner?
how much does a junior partner earn?
is it true that govt scholars, like PSC, would earn less than lawyers after a while? but seeing how the top AOs earn $300k+ at 32 years old, it seems unlikely.

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Old 07-16-2008, 08:24 AM   #2
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could anyone provide an insight into the typical career path for a fresh lawyer? i'm interested in the career progression and also the salary scale, and if possible, for different types of law firms. i would really appreciate any info - i'm still trying to decide.

for example?

typical starting pay?
typical pay by 30 years old or early thirties?
how easy it is and how long would it take to make partner?
how much does a junior partner earn?
is it true that govt scholars, like PSC, would earn less than lawyers after a while? but seeing how the top AOs earn $300k+ at 32 years old, it seems unlikely.
If you are into Law just for the money then I suggest that you don't waste your time becuase you aren't going to last long in the profession. Do it for the passion; that is what makes a good lawyer.
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:28 PM   #3
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If you are into Law just for the money then I suggest that you don't waste your time becuase you aren't going to last long in the profession. Do it for the passion; that is what makes a good lawyer.
Lock just wants to find out more about the profession, and I think there is nothing wrong with that. Don't assume that he is interested in it just for the money because he is not. If you cannot answer his questions, please do not quote him.
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Old 07-16-2008, 07:32 PM   #4
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If you are into Law just for the money then I suggest that you don't waste your time becuase you aren't going to last long in the profession. Do it for the passion; that is what makes a good lawyer.

I agree with your statement per se, but disagree with your notion that passion and monetary concerns are mutually exclusive. As a law student yourself, you should know better to make false dichotomies like that one.

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Lock just wants to find out more about the profession, and I think there is nothing wrong with that. Don't assume that he is interested in it just for the money because he is not. If you cannot answer his questions, please do not quote him.
I agree with you, but I'm not gonna deny that money is part of the package - when hasn't it been for any type of job? Still, if Eugene would take a look at the other threads I've started in the Law forum, he would rest assured that I've been trying very hard to find out if I'm suitable for law.
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Old 07-17-2008, 10:10 AM   #5
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If you are into Law just for the money then I suggest that you don't waste your time becuase you aren't going to last long in the profession. Do it for the passion; that is what makes a good lawyer.
woah whos our big shot lawyer here going around chastising everybody? so what if one's in it for the money? the drive to excel and better oneself financially is a passion in itself....besides there're other things like potential and ability that make for a gd lawyer...u're not exactly in a position to judge my dear lawyer (or perhaps law student) wannabe
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woah whos our big shot lawyer here going around chastising everybody? so what if one's in it for the money? the drive to excel and better oneself financially is a passion in itself....besides there're other things like potential and ability that make for a gd lawyer...u're not exactly in a position to judge my dear lawyer (or perhaps law student) wannabe
The above is just my personal view. If you can't accept it then that is your problem. This is not a forum to start a flaming war just because your narrow-mindedness differs from others. Judging from what I can see, you (with specific reference to Bridgehead) are just being a slave to money so don't give me this bull about "passion" in itself. Maybe your naivety about the money and grandeur of being in the legal profession spurred you on to make such nonchalant and insolant remarks. It's okay. People do grow up and I hope you do so too; fast!

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I agree with your statement per se, but disagree with your notion that passion and monetary concerns are mutually exclusive. As a law student yourself, you should know better to make false dichotomies like that one.



I agree with you, but I'm not gonna deny that money is part of the package - when hasn't it been for any type of job? Still, if Eugene would take a look at the other threads I've started in the Law forum, he would rest assured that I've been trying very hard to find out if I'm suitable for law.
Okay, I accept my mistake. Anyways, I hope you are really interested in law as a career and not just a perceived shortcut to earning money. Best of luck!

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Good. Someone finally found out how to remove the stick from his arse.

Anyway I would like to answer some of the questions posed by Lock. The usual disclaimers apply.

typical starting pay?


Market rate is currently 4.5 k. Exceptionally, it can go up to 5k but that is only for a handful of firms. The best firms pay 4.5k. There is this offshore firm that pays 7.5k though but you must have a strong set of grades. (Top 20% or thereabouts)

It is hard to say how the new rules that apply to foreign law firms and the SMU Law grads will influence the starting pay. We will just have to wait and see.

typical pay by 30 years old or early thirties?

I assume you are male. You start work as a qualified lawyer at 26. The average age for making partner is about 33-34. The best paying firm at partner level gives you 20k. I am unsure about the other firms.

how easy it is and how long would it take to make partner?

Answered above. Usually about 7-8 years. The superstars can make partner in 5 years.

how much does a junior partner earn?

Answered above.

is it true that govt scholars, like PSC, would earn less than lawyers after a while? but seeing how the top AOs earn $300k+ at 32 years old, it seems unlikely.

I suppose only equity partners can hit those levels.

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I'm curious, how many lawyers actually make it to Partner level (or equivalent) in their careers?

On average is it the elite few like 10% cohort? Or top 30%? Or 80%?

I was thinking maybe 10% to 20% but that's just a guess.
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I'm curious, how many lawyers actually make it to Partner level (or equivalent) in their careers?

On average is it the elite few like 10% cohort? Or top 30%? Or 80%?

I was thinking maybe 10% to 20% but that's just a guess.
yeah, i'm thinking of that too. also, if i work as an in house lawyer, i know i will definitely earn less, but is it true in house lawyers are less stressed? ( i mean it relatively)
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