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Old 04-08-2009, 09:50 AM   #1
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hi, i was just wondering, what are the differences between mass comm at ntu and fass at nus? well i mean differences in terms of future job prospects, school culture, focus of course etc.

also i got an offer from fass on 25/3, and should i get into mass comm (a bit premature, i know) , i wouldn't know which course to choose given my interests. i'm planning to major in either literature or political science if i decide on fass. the communications and new media course at nus doesn't really interest me though.

has anyone heard anything from sci yet? i'm starting to get a bit worried as my friends who applied to hss all got called down for interviews.
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:29 AM   #2
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hi, i was just wondering, what are the differences between mass comm at ntu and fass at nus? well i mean differences in terms of future job prospects, school culture, focus of course etc.

also i got an offer from fass on 25/3, and should i get into mass comm (a bit premature, i know) , i wouldn't know which course to choose given my interests. i'm planning to major in either literature or political science if i decide on fass. the communications and new media course at nus doesn't really interest me though.

has anyone heard anything from sci yet? i'm starting to get a bit worried as my friends who applied to hss all got called down for interviews.
Hello mellifluous, Congratulations on your school offers.

Which aspect of mass comm in ntu are u interested in? If you are seeking to enter mass comm just cos of the interview etc which they conduct and the hype about 'how it is hard to get in' , then trust me, all that talk is overrated.

Just follow your passion and study the subjects which you find will truly enrich your mind.

Job Prospects
In terms of future job prospects, the good thing about the ntu mass comm programme is that it comes with an internship. However, in nus, u may also self source for one, but that takes a lot of discipline and it is not compulsory.

Mass comm is definitely more hands on.. but that said, it is also less academic than the new media course offered at nus. In mass comm at ntu, there are 5 divisions- advertising, communication research, journalism, public and promotional communication (PR and corp comms) and electronic and broadcast media (the techy cameraman/radio/ tv).

I would say that if you are interested in the tech stuff like making films etc then ntu mass comm would be a good place to go because it has the relevant expensive equipment and facilities which u can work with.

All other aspects, it is fine to learn those skills in nus..



School culture
In my opinion, if you are seeking to go overseas on exchange, ntu seems to be a school that promotes that widely. In Mass comm in ntu, about 40 per cent actually go on overseas exchange in their second yr. There are many other overseas opportunities (like the six month exchange, or summer studies etc) offered to students ntu and they seem to be more publicized.


School culture and amenities wise, NUS is definitely more vibrant, always having bazaars at the area under the central library and it is more convenient than ntu 'at the end of the island'.

NTU is slowly getting there .. with the recent upgrade of canteens A and B and more food joints setting up like subway, old chang kee, 2-4-1 california pizza and mr bean.

Maybe after yog in 2010 then ntu will be more vibrant.. there is that potential there.


Focus of course

I must say that the academic rigours in nus is higher than that in ntu. Readings in nus are very heavy too (a really thick binded set of notes u must read before the exams).. but in ntu mass comms they are manageable (1-2 chapters of a book per module each wk. exams don't read also maybe nevermind).

I personally think it's easier to score in NTU than in NUS because the standard is not as high. Also, ntu offers a direct honours programme and you do a final year project in year four instead of writing a thesis (which u would in nus).


However, our lecturers tell us in Mass comm that the challenge mass comm grads face is the lack of in-depth knowledge in specific subject areas. We may have the skill to DO things but lack the specific knowledge in a particular area (ie: how people think (psychology), geological processes in earthquakes or the causes of demographic changes in population (geography), or the beauty of language (literature).

So if you like to enrich your mind with theories in political science or literature, you would be much happier majoring in that subject.

(do note that in the senior years like year 3 and 4 at nus, the academic rigours can sometimes get a little too dry.. my sister took literature and she felt a little 'sian' by year 4...)

But if you feel you are flexible and prefer being efficient and skill oriented, (and love to slack most of the time but chiong for exams) then maybe consider mass comm.

Be sure of your choice if you eventually choose mass comm. i have known friends who have switched out of comm studies to transfer to other courses like literature or even science in nus. (they missed the in-depth knowledge these subjects provided)

On the other hand, I've never heard of anyone ever regretting not going to mass comm. ( my friend who didn't get into mass comm is happy studying theatre in nus instead)

But there are also folks in mass comm who are perfectly happy with the course they are studying and the videos they are making and the articles they are writing and events they are planning etc..

Wish you all the best and just make the right choice =)

Everything has a pro and con!
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Old 04-08-2009, 11:05 AM   #3
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Hello scholarla, thank you very much for your reply. (: i really appreciate it.

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Which aspect of mass comm in ntu are u interested in? If you are seeking to enter mass comm just cos of the interview etc which they conduct and the hype about 'how it is hard to get in' , then trust me, all that talk is overrated
i'm particularly interested in public relations and advertising. haha. honestly i'd never really heard much about sci till i got the brochure together with my a-level results. previously i'd had my heart set on fass but the sci brochure swayed me considerably. and now i'm confused.

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Mass comm is definitely more hands on.. but that said, it is also less academic than the new media course offered at nus. In mass comm at ntu, there are 5 divisions- advertising, communication research, journalism, public and promotional communication (PR and corp comms) and electronic and broadcast media (the techy cameraman/radio/ tv).

I would say that if you are interested in the tech stuff like making films etc then ntu mass comm would be a good place to go because it has the relevant expensive equipment and facilities which u can work with.
is it necessary to do a study of all 5 divisions you mentioned? or is it possible to choose 1 division to "major" in (in that sense)?

my main concern is that should i end up in fass, i'd have all the theoretical knowledge from the academics but lack the hands-on experience which you mentioned. i'm definitely interested in a career in the media, and in that case, the mass comm degree would be better regarded by employers, wouldn't it?

personally i'd like a slack uni life (after mugging so hard for the a-levels, i feel like being a slacker now), and in that case, ntu sounds like a better choice.

i've never really heard much about ntu culture, except that it can be more "chinese" from what i heard. but in sci, that wouldn't be the case would it?
though the only thing working against ntu is its inaccessibility. i stay in the northeast and travelling time will probably kill me every day but then again, both nus and ntu are in the west, so i guess it'd be the lesser of two evils for me.

thanks again for your post, really hope i'll get a call from ntu for mass comm.
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:50 PM   #4
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Hello, you are very welcome!

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i'm particularly interested in public relations and advertising. haha. honestly i'd never really heard much about sci till i got the brochure together with my a-level results. previously i'd had my heart set on fass but the sci brochure swayed me considerably. and now i'm confused.
Personally i had my heart set on going to NUS too.. until this mass comm offer from NTU came along. In my case, i took it up but sometimes i still think if i made the right choice. That was initially when i was year one.. and then time flies and i've adapted and i'm more than halfway through my studies now so no turning back already..

My personal advice will be to stick to what you originally had in mind for yourself because going on the 'original plan' would not cause you to have second thoughts, unlike going for something you are unfamiliar with and if it doesn't quite suit you, you may start re-thinking your choice.


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is it necessary to do a study of all 5 divisions you mentioned? or is it possible to choose 1 division to "major" in (in that sense)?
In the first year, you will get to do introductory modules in all the five divisions. In year 3, you can specialise into one division or some people study up to two majors.

Oh another thing i can tell you- At NTU's HSS, they offer a double major with SCI. HSS students have the option of doing a double major of their subject in hss (ie: lit/sociology/psychology) with Communications.

here's the link to check out

http://www3.ntu.edu.sg/sci/undergrad...major_hss.html

Studying that is heavy though. This offer is not open to Comm studies students tho. For more info abt comm studies curriculum, check out

http://www3.ntu.edu.sg/OAS2/nanyangb...-P2-12SCI.html



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my main concern is that should i end up in fass, i'd have all the theoretical knowledge from the academics but lack the hands-on experience which you mentioned. i'm definitely interested in a career in the media, and in that case, the mass comm degree would be better regarded by employers, wouldn't it?
Yes i would say this is definitely one pro of sci. Do not discount the fact that NUS grads are highly sought after by employers though. NUS is after all the number one university in Singapore =p

You did indicate interest in working in the media industry in future- well, one perk of the compulsory internship of sci is that if you land in a reputable media company for your internship, it will look good on your resume when looking for a job upon graduation, it can even pave the way into the media industry for u! Or you can even go back to that co. to work.

Some companies for internship include: Hill and Knowlton, Ogilvy PR, Milward Brown and Edelman PR.


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i've never really heard much about ntu culture, except that it can be more "chinese" from what i heard. but in sci, that wouldn't be the case would it?
though the only thing working against ntu is its inaccessibility. i stay in the northeast and travelling time will probably kill me every day but then again, both nus and ntu are in the west, so i guess it'd be the lesser of two evils for me.
yes you are right that in SCI, we don't get to experience the PRCs screaming into your ear or 'spoiling the market' by doing inhumanly well like in some engineering courses, or things like tt. Everyone is pretty vocal and no eccentric personalities around =p

But students at SCI work hard too..and it can get quite competitive.
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Old 04-08-2009, 02:45 PM   #5
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However, in nus, u may also self source for one, but that takes a lot of discipline and it is not compulsory.
I've seen the NUS career office's database of internship opportunities and there are actually many opportunities for FASS students. the good thing about making internship optional is that you have more control over where, when or how long you want to do the internship for.

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In my opinion, if you are seeking to go overseas on exchange, ntu seems to be a school that promotes that widely.
But NUS offers more choices and better known unis for exchange.

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i'm definitely interested in a career in the media, and in that case, the mass comm degree would be better regarded by employers, wouldn't it?
no, not necessarily. maybe yes for companies like mediacorp, sph, but you'll still get many employers from elsewhere questioning you... "why didn't you choose NUS instead? isn't it a better choice"

this thread is about ntu hss but it provides much information about nus fass too:
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/sh....php?t=1551089
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Hey! I am considering between NTU Mass Comm and NUS FASS too! I'm really interested in Mass Comm advertising in particular, but the campus life in NUS is just so tempting!

I actually didnt know that NTU has a lot of overseas exchange programme because the open house wasnt really very informative in my opinion. Good to hear that they do have it!

Waiting for NTU's letter too. Lucks to you!
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Old 04-08-2009, 11:52 PM   #7
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hi mellifluous, can i ask u some qns? 1)when did u send in ur applications?
2)eh,what are ur grades like(if u dun mind)
coz i put nus fass as first choice but have yet to receive any news.=(
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Old 04-09-2009, 09:18 AM   #8
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hi mellifluous, can i ask u some qns? 1)when did u send in ur applications?
2)eh,what are ur grades like(if u dun mind)
coz i put nus fass as first choice but have yet to receive any news.=(
hi yoyo. i sent in my application ages ago (i think around the period of the nus open house) and my grades were AAC/A, B for GP and PW.
however from what i heard from friends with similar grades, those who put weird options such as double-degree programmes (for the fun of it), or messed around with their choices, didn't get the early offer. so that could be a factor.
what are your grades like? don't worry, i'm sure you'll get an offer soon

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Hey! I am considering between NTU Mass Comm and NUS FASS too! I'm really interested in Mass Comm advertising in particular, but the campus life in NUS is just so tempting!

I actually didnt know that NTU has a lot of overseas exchange programme because the open house wasnt really very informative in my opinion. Good to hear that they do have it!
hey xwei! i know exactly what you mean about the campus life in nus! sigh. sadly i didn't get to go down to the ntu open house. anything interesting to share?

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Old 04-10-2009, 08:29 PM   #9
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wells, NTU's open house wasnt as informative as I would've prefered it to be... but the mass comm tour was quite an insight into what the course would be like. Toured their studios, newsroom etc.

NUS just gives a really different feeling altogether. The constant buzz in the campus. NTU felt a lot quieter and less happening in comparison. Also, I felt like the hall life in NUS was a lot more developed and the sense of community was stronger. Hahas, I might be biased though, because I've seen how much fun my sister had staying in NUS hall.

Received an invitation for a reception to NTU WKWSCI on 18th April. Have you received it?
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Old 04-11-2009, 03:09 PM   #10
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[QUOTE=mellifluous;12754]hi yoyo. i sent in my application ages ago (i think around the period of the nus open house) and my grades were AAC/A, B for GP and PW.
however from what i heard from friends with similar grades, those who put weird options such as double-degree programmes (for the fun of it), or messed around with their choices, didn't get the early offer. so that could be a factor.
what are your grades like? don't worry, i'm sure you'll get an offer soon


whoa, u did well !!!i sent my application a week before the closing date and my grades are BCD/A =.= (trying to sqeeze into the 10 percentile) haha. all e best in no matter what u choose! thanks for ur reply btw.=)
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